3.Brian Shaw — Direct (Part 3)

MR. HOWARD: Mr. Evert, can you please publish Government Exhibit 936, please? If we can go to where we left off on page 18, please?

Now, Mr. Shaw, you testified on last Thursday that this was a compilation of private messages that were sent to and from the Dread Pirate Roberts, correct?

MR. HOWARD: Mr. Evert, can we zoom in on the post in blue there?

March 28, 2013, from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"I already have that information but thank you. 1M a week sounds like it would be worth selling on here, once we know exactly how everything works. Even if commission was 15% it would not matter, as we lose more than 15% doing it on the streets with street level guys getting robbed or arrest and losing product etc. Also, we have kidnapped friendlychemists partner Xin already and are on the hunt for friendlychemist. I will keep you updated on the developments. So far though we are liking what we see with this site and this could be a good partnership for both of us. As far as I can see, this site lacks any big time suppliers. It appears it is mostly it is street level independents that are buying small amounts (1oz - 1 kilo at a time) and selling on here. We have the product and the man power to do big things here. Forgive me, but it all seems a little too good to be true right now so I will need some time to really research this before I make any sort of commitment."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"I understand, and that is great news about Xin. If I understand the situation, he is the one responsible for your loss. You should definitely take your time and start slowly. I would hate for you to make a mistake and be left with a bad experience. Just let me know if you need anything. Also, you should look into PGP. Many customers like to encrypt their receiving address so you should know how to decrypt it."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts -- sorry, the end of the last message was:

"When you are ready, let me know what account you want to sell with and I'll cover the $500 security deposit for you."

The next is from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"We are all familiar with PGP as we have been using it for years via email linked to our smartphones. It's the only way we communicate with each other aside from in person, since phone calls are not secure. There is no loss anymore, also. We were able to recover all of our missing product when we grabbed Xin. After some "questioning" he admitted he was intending on moving to a different country and setting up a new seller account on this site. We don't take too kindly to thieves. He's gone. I appreciate your offer to waive the fee, but If we were to sell on here I would like to pay the same as everyone else. Very kind of you though. I will be in touch."

March 29, 2013, from friendlychemist to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"u leave me no choice i want 500k usd withn 72hrs or i am going to post all the info i have. i cant go back to my home and i had to move my kids and wife somewhere and i need the money so i can move my family and start a new life. i hate to do this but i need the money or im going to release it all. over 5000 user details and about 2 dozen vender identities wats it going to be?"

From Dread Pirate Roberts to friendlychemist:

"Don't do anything foolish. The people that you owe money to have caught up with Xin and reclaimed their loss. I spoke to them and calmed them down. They are likely going to become vendors here on SR. Now you can calm down too. Go back to your normal life and don't get involved in this stuff any more."

From friendlychemist to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"u dont think i kno what they did to xin? u think i can just go on with my life? u dont know these ppl. i owed them money and i ran away from them. its over for me. i need that money to start over somewhere else with my family. i need it! i dont want to do this but if u dont give it to me i have no choice they are still telling me that i hav to meet them and i kno what will happen. i cant let that happen! even if they say it is ok i kno they will do the same thing to me. they say everything is ok but i kno what they will do! 63 hours.. please.. dont force me to post everything. 500k is nothing to u but its life and death for me they told me that i have a free pass and that they dealt with it with xin but i kno that they are doing that to make me think its ok and then get me! thats how these ppl operate!"

From Dread Pirate Roberts to friendlychemist:

"Do me a favor and make it 96 hours. I will get back to you on Monday. I want to work this out, but I have big plans for this weekend and don't want to have to deal with this."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "Hi again R&W, I hate to come to you with a problem when we are just starting to get to know one another, but Blake (FriendlyChemist) is causing me problems. Are you still looking for him or now that you've found Xin have you given up? I would like to put a bounty on his head if it's not too much trouble for you. What would be an adequate amount to motivate you to find him? Necessities like this do happen from time to time for a person in my position. I have others I can turn to, but it is always good to have options and you are close to the case right now. Hopefully this is something you are open to and can be another aspect of our business relationship. Regards, DPR"

Now, Mr. Evert, could you put that message on the top of the screen, please? On the bottom of the screen can you please publish Government Exhibit 241 -- this is already in evidence, a file that was recovered from the defendant's computer -- and zoom in on the entry from March 28, 2013 from March 29, 2013?

3/28/2013: Being blackmailed with user info. Talking with large distributor (hell's angels).

3/29/2013: Commissioned hit on blackmailer with angels.

Now go back to the message, Mr. Evert?

March 30th, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"What is the problem? We usually tend to stay away from hits as they are bad for business and bring a lot of heat. Is it a problem that can be resolved or does it need to be dealt with sternly? As of right now, we don't care about him because we retrieved more from Xin than what he took from us, and he also paid for it with his life. Debt paid in our books. As far as rates go, we don't have a flat rate for things like that. It's on a case by case basis. Usually we pay our hitters a percentage of what the person owes +/- how much they can retrieve. If it's strictly a hit because they don't want the person around anymore it's also different. Does he owe you money or do you just not want him around anymore? I can send a couple of my guys to do recon to find out exactly where he is right now in the meantime until I hear back from you."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"If you can find his location, that may be enough for me to scare him off. He is trying to blackmail me. Just let me know what you need to make this worth your while."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"If I find his location, and you use it against him to scare him, there is a chance he will switch locations again. Speaking from experience, it will become a lot more difficult to find him again after that once he knows there are people capable of finding, him looking for him."

"Further, the people we use to do the recon are the hitter themselves. I don't think they will be interested in continuing looking for him if there will be a small sum to be split between them just to find his address. If you have your mind set on just finding his location, I can talk to them and get them to get it for you for a fee (not sure what amount as usually when we hunt someone, there is more involved after we find them). If you want to deal with him the other way, we can talk about that too, but price varies on the situation. If you want it to look like an accident, it would cost a lot more. It wouldn't be suspicious. He would just leave home one day and not return. If you don't care what it looks like, it would be cheaper than the accident. We use professionals and not street level hoodlums who always end up fucking things up. How much does he owe you and how much are you willing to pay? If there are funds retrieved, how much would we keep from what he has when we get him(if he has anything) ?"

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"He doesn't owe me anything, but he is threatening to expose the identities of thousands of my clients that he was able to acquire working with Xin if I don't pay him off. As you don't take kindly to thieves, this kind of behavior is unforgivable to me. Especially here on Silk Road, anonymity is sacrosanct. It doesn't have to be clean, and I don't think there are any funds to be retrieved."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "Price for clean is 300k+ USD. Price for non-clean is 150-200k USD depending on how you want it done. These prices pay for 2 professional hitters including their travel expenses and work they put in. We can use out of town hitters if you want as well, but I would not suggest them because they come with an extra cost and you don't seem to care how he is taken care of. When would you like this done?"

March 31st, 2013 from Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"Don't want to be a pain here, but the price seems high. Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for $80k. Are the prices you quoted the best you can do? I would like this done asap as he is talking about releasing the info on Monday."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"I'm sorry, but we can't do anything for that price. Best I can do is 150 and even that is pushing it. Since you need a rush job done, usually we would charge even more. In the interest of business relationship to be, I could do 150. No lower. If 150 does not work for you, we are going to have to pass. We use professionals, and we pay them a good price. Always send them out in a team of 2+.. 75k each for expenses and the job is a fair amount I think. We have one of his associates, and we're paying him to set him up for us. We'll pay for that ourselves on our end. I'm guessing you will not be able to pay by cash, so how would payment work since you need it done before monday?"

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"If you want it done by Monday that only leaves today. It's Sunday morning here. We always seem to miss each other online, so I will leave a bitcoin address in case you want to pay that way. Probably best so we can get used to dealing with bitcoins anyways since we will be selling here more than likely in the next week or two. I will check the computer in about 10 hours and If I see that you do want to go ahead with this, and payment has been sent we'll do it today."

So then there is 1MWCS1ID and a lot of other characters.

"If you want picture confirmation of the job afterwards, give me random numbers and I will have them write them beside him and take a picture for you."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"Thank you R&W. I've only ever commissioned the one other hit, so I'm still learning this market. I have no problem putting my faith in you and I am sure you will do a good job. The exchange rate is above 90 right now, so at $90/btc, $150k is about 1670 btc. If the market tanks in the next few days, I will send more. Here are some random numbers for a picture: 83746102 Here is the transaction # for 1670 btc to" --

And then there is long strings of characters:

"Good luck and be safe, DPR"

Before we move on, Mr. Shaw, let me direct your attention to this here. Do you recognize what that is?

MR. HOWARD: Mr. Evert, can we publish the top of the page, please? Can we put up Government Exhibit 630 on the bottom of the screen that has already been admitted into evidence? And just zoom in on the top portion, here.

So, Mr. Shaw, do you recognize what this depicts?

MR. HOWARD: Mr. Evert, can we continue on to the next message, please?

March 31st, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"I received the payment. I appreciate the offer if bitcoins lower in value. We know where he is. He'll be grabbed tonight. I'll update you."

April 1, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"Your problem has been taken care of. They seized a bunch of stuff he had with him at the time as well. They said he had a couple laptops and a bunch of usb sticks. Is there anything of that, that belongs to you? They questioned him and he spilled everything he knew. He said that he and Xin were actually working together on this scheme to blackmail you and that they were brought in by a 3rd guy who has been selling on here for a couple years who is a scam artist. Apparently he makes selling accounts, sells for a while and then pulls a big scam and he just keeps creating new accounts after he does his scams. They got that guys name also , I will give that to you free of charge when I meet them to get the picture and computer hardware they got. Rest easy though, because he won't be blackmailing anyone again. Ever."

Can you put that on the top of the page, please?

And Mr. Evert on the bottom can you please put Government Exhibit 241 which has already been admitted into evidence which is the same file from the defendant's computer and go to April 1st, 2013?

4/1/2013: Got word that the blackmailer was executed.

We will continue on with the next message.

April 2, 2013: From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite:

"Excellent work. Please send any info you can get on this third party along with the picture. The picture can be uploaded here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/upload I have no need for any of his possessions, so you can do what you want with that stuff. Thank you again for your assistance, DPR"

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts:

"Okay my guys are here now and here is the information they extracted from FriendlyChemist before the deed. They were working with a guy - real name of Andrew Lawsry of Surrey. Apparently this is the guy that turned them on to frauding people on here. He said that he started selling on silkroad a couple of years ago and since then he has made a career of making new seller profiles to sell and then rip people off. He told them how to start on here and how to rip people off and asked for a percentage in return. He said that he showed them everything about how to sell and how to pull it off and all that stuff. He didn't remember all of the account names he uses or used but he said that tony76 and nipplesuckcanuck were two of his names and that he has other seller accounts for people he set up or is running himself. I also went and looked at all of the possessions they seized from him. The laptops were empty besides Tor and a couple other programs. The USB sticks he had were packed full of text files with thousands of addresses from all around the world. We destroyed everything we seized from him, but I kept a text file that was named "blackmail.txt" that had a ton of addresses in it like the other text files. Since you mentioned that he was trying to blackmail you with that information, I kept that text file in case you needed it. If you don't need it, let me know and I will destroy it. I also have the picture with me. A question before I send it to you. I am not extremely good with all this anonymity computer operations, but I know that pictures store GPS information and the likes that police can use in evidence. Is it safe to send it over here like that? We took care of him at one of our safehouses so that worries me a little. I trust your judgement, so I was wondering if there was a way to delete the GPS information from a picture before I send it over the internet. Another quick question regarding bitcoins. How do we withdraw them? I paid the hitters with my own money until I figure out how bitcoins work exactly. As I understand it, mtgox is the main exchange. Is it safe to make an account there to withdraw? Can they link it back to SilkRoad? They require verification which bothers me a little so I figured you would know the best way."

Mr. Evert, can you go back to the first part of that message and zoom in on the first paragraph here with Andrew Lawsry in Surrey?

Can we publish Government Exhibit 275 on the bottom which is the .txt file recovered from the computer and zoom in on bottom section starting here? Why don't you zoom in there. Rogue partner details: Xin Cho Tuay

Address: It was our shared apartment where we worked out of... he moved out when he robbed me.

Age: 31.

Surrey, British Columbia.

Girlfriend's name: Suzy Ngyuen.

redandwhite his suppliers.

tony76/nipplesuckcanuck personal info.

Andrew Lawsry of Surrey.

Mr. Evert, can we just continue with the conversation on the next page, please?

MR. HOWARD: April 2, 2013 from Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "Yes, you can destroy the info. Thanks for taking a look first. Regarding image metadata you can strip all that out and it is a good practice. The upload page is secure, but I would still have access to that metadata. Of course, you can trust me but what if I was compromised. Do a search of 'remove image metadata' a decent one for windows can be found here. Regarding bitcoin withdrawal I would avoid Mt.Gox if at all possible, especially if you're withdrawing to a USA account. There are many other exchanges that don't have so much attention on them. You can find a list here."

And then provides a link.

"I am reluctant to give you a specific recommendation, but look for ones offshore on that list that will do an international wire transfer for a direct bitcoin payment.

"tony76 and nipplesuchcanuck were both blights on an otherwise great track record. What do you think about going after Andrew Lawsry? This guy has probably ripped off millions of dollars at this point from me and the rest of the Silk Road community."

April 4, 2013, from Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "Are you sure the name isn't Andrew Lawry? Or some other variant? I can't find a surname anywhere of Lawsry. And do you have any other info at all on this person."

April 5, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "I have sent the file. I had to make sure I did the information removal properly before I sent it so that it did not send GPS information with the picture in case it was intercepted somehow. Please delete the picture as soon as you take a look at it. As for the name, it's Andrew Lawsry, aka Tony76 aka nipplesuckcanuck aka some other names I do not know. From what I got from FriendlyChemist, he has other names on here as well or is working with other vendors on here like I mentioned before.

"As for your question about going after him, I would need to do some asking around to see what kind of information my guys can get on him. Would you like me to look into it."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "Yes, please. If you can find him, I would like to know."

April 5, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: Did you get the picture? Let me know so I can delete the rest of the one I have. Finding him would be possible. I can almost guarantee it, but I stop short of guaranteeing anything unless I am 100 percent certain I can get the job done. I do that so I don't look like an idiot. If I can't accomplish something I have said I can. We have a huge stake in the trafficking on this side of the country, so if he is grabbing product from anyone, we would be able to find out who and get to him. Would you want him dealt with if possible? I ask because I don't want to send people to hunt for him and then nothing come of it once they find him. Please don't forget to delete that picture."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "I've received the picture and deleted it. Thank you again for your swift action. I would like to go after Andrew, though it is important to me to make sure he is who Blake said he is. I would rather miss the chance to take him out, than hit an innocent person. If he is our man then he likely has substantial assets to be recovered. Perhaps we can hold him and question him.

"I'd like to connect with you in real-time chat to discuss this with you further. I have a secure system set up that we can connect through. It requires downloading the chat client pidgin and the plugin off the record OTR and some basic configuration to connect. If you're open to the idea, I'll send you the instructions. This is how I communicate with my closest people. If not, we can keep it here, but it is much slower."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: It was my pleasure. I hate thieves almost as much as I hate informants. About holding and questioning someone. It adds to the risk somewhat the longer we have a target/transport a target. The safest way is to get in, do it, and get out as soon as possible. Are there any way to verify he is the intended target? Making him speak would not be a problem and of course, we would not have him done in if he was not right person we were looking for.

"Since you said you'd like to go after him, I will send two of my guys to do some recon right now and find out what I can about him and get back to you immediately. We can discuss price later once we know more. "As for the real time chat, send the information over and I will have my tech guy look at it. He handles all my security with phones and pgp blackberries so he would probably know better than me how to set everything up."

April 6, 2013 from Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "My gut tells me he's our man, but I would hate to be wrong. Your men were able to get info from Blake, maybe they can do the same with Andrew. He is likely sitting on many thousands of stolen bitcoin perhaps tens of thousands, so I would think we'd want to "work him over" to get those funds back. They could be on an encrypted drive only he can unlock. Taking him out would erase those coins forever. In the process of getting him to return the funds, I hope we could confirm that he is indeed the one Blake says he is. Here are the instructions for accessing the chat server from a windows computer. Download and install pidgin," and a link.

There are a number of instructions. The last instruction says "No. 13 add buddy 'dread.'"

Go to the next message: From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "I got all the information correct, but when I try to connect it is stuck on 'connecting.' I have the correct port that Tor is listing on."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "I have found out who Andrew is exactly and who he was picking up his supply from. I talked to his supplier and he said he mainly grabbed heroin, coke, MDMA and LSD. He said he always goes through phases where he grabs a ton of product and then stops for a couple of weeks and then starts again. Sounds consistent with what FriendlyChemist said about how they run the stealing from the buyers on here. He said last he heard from Andrew (a couple of days ago), he said he was planning on moving out of the province because things were too hot down here. That might be because he has found out Xin and FriendlyChemist and is now scared.

"I also had a chance to actually sit down and talk to my hitters about exactly what happened and how everything went down in detail. They said that FriendlyChemist was pleading with them and offering to give up Andrew, and that Andrew was a seller here by the name of tony and a bunch of other names (nipplesuckcanuck amongst others). He said that when he first turned them on to the idea of doing this big scheme that he would often talk about how he stole so much money, and that he once stole 15,000 online currency coins from one person on the site and how easy stealing money was on here. Does that ring a bell? Did he steal 15,000 bitcoins from a buyer here? That would be an easy way to find out if this Andrew person is the same person you think it is. Do you have his transaction history to see if he did actually steal 15,000 bitcoins from someone? I trust my hitters to do a good job and they are excellent at what they do. Which is take people out or interrogate/scare people, and they told me that they didn't think he was lying.

"The info I have on him right now, is that he works/lives with three other people and they all sell product together. They are planning on leaving the province soon (I don't know when). He is in contact with his supplier who actually through a line of middlemen gets his product from us a the end of the food chain.

"Do you want to deal with this Andrew guy, or do you want me to put the team on standby."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to Redandwhite: "I am confident enough that it is him to move forward. Can we round up all four of them, separate them, and get them to out each other and give up their stolen money? Recovering the funds is going to be tricky if you aren't in direct contact with your team, or if your team doesn't know how bitcoins work.

"If you have the other users names FC mentioned, that will help me piece together things on my end. Regarding Chat, there should be a certificate you have to accept when it connects. Does that show up."

From Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "It won't even connect. It just is stuck on connecting nl copy and pasted all the information for the login and password, etc. So it should be Good. I also checked Tor to see what port to use. Won't connect for some reason. Do I have to fill in anymore of the details, local Alias or anything like that. "As for getting all four, it would be possible but they would have to get them all at once so that one does not get away. I would send four hitters instead of two to make sure there With were no fuck ups. I'm not sure when they are planning on leaving the province though. The guy that has been feeding me information on him says the guy is a degenerate gambler so I don't know how much funds he will have on hand. He says he owes a ton of people money too. My guess is that he is pulling these scams to fuel his gambling problem like a degenerate. It would make sense why he is also teaching other people how to scam as well when it has been so profitable for him to keep to himself. Probably because he owes them money and offers to show them how to do it, as a way of paying them back. I will have them take whatever they have on hand, but I don't want my hitters to be hanging around with them for too long since they are doing four people.

"Unfortunately, there are no bulk discounts for jobs like this. Usually the price goes up the more difficult it is. Since you are easy to work with, I would be able to offer you the same rate as last time x4. If that works for you, let me know. If it doesn't, please also let me know as soon as you can so I can call my guys off. They have been doing info gathering this whole time on Andrew and his crew."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "OK, let's just hit Andrew and leave it at that. Try to recover the funds, but if not, then not. How much do you need for this? I'm not sure what the problem could be with chat. Please upload some screenshots of the settings you are using and the main pidgin window."

April 8, 2013 from Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "If you want to hit Andrew only, I can have it done for 150 just like last time. We wouldn't be able to do it at their place though because there are always at least a few of them there from what I'm told since it is their home/office. So we wouldn't be able to recover any of his things. It's up to you what you want done, but we can't send hitters into their house/office if they are only doing one of them. Do you not need the people he is working with dealt with also? If they are all working with him, it means they are doing the same thing as him. It would also be easier for the hitters to get them in there so that they would have a chance of recovering anything if he has anything there. It would also be better because it wouldn't be a public hit. If we take just Andrew, there's nothing to say that the other three won't start up somewhere else with new selling IDs. It is of course up to you what you want done and how, since you are they client.

"I was pretty certain you would want them all taken care, so I had an associate send me a couple of his out of town hitters to accompany our local hitters. It's not a problem as I can just send them back and cover their travel expenses, but I obviously would like for them to not go back empty handed. My mistake for not confirming what you wanted before I had the extra hitters sent down, but it's not really a problem if you don't want the others dealt with. I had a hard time connecting to Silk Road for the last 24 hours or I would have asked before having them sent down. So if you would like to do the others as well, I would be able to have it done for 500k USD. If you do not want all of them, and just Andrew it would be 150k. I would prefer to do all four as it would be better than having to get Andrew somewhere else and have no chance of recovering any potential product/money he may have. Anything recovered would be split 50/50 with you. If you are certain that he has that much product/money I think it would make sense to do it at their home/officer. It's up to you though, just let me know what do do as soon as you can since I do not know when they are leaving the province and if they do leave the province the price would go up exponentially.

"If you would like Andrew done send 150k USD to the same address you sent the other funds to.

"If you would like all four of them done and product/money recovered from there send 500k USD to the same address you sent the other funds to." To the next page, please. Let's go down to this message. April 8, 2013, from Dread Pirate Roberts to Redandwhite: "I see your problem, you need port 9150, not 9151. 9151 is the control port, 9150 is the socks port. Hmmm, ok, I'll defer to your better judgment and hope we can recover some assets From them, 500k in btc 3000 at $166/btc has been sent to," and then there's a long string of characters, numbers and then transaction number and a long string of characters and numbers.

MR. HOWARD: Can we continue with the chats, Mr. Evert -- Sorry. One more thing. Can we publish 241 from the defendant's computer. Can we go to page two, please. And zoom in on the entries from April 6, 2013 to April 8, 2013.

So April 6, 2013, the second line here says "Gave angels go ahead to find tony76."

April 8, 2013, "Sent payment to angels for hit on tony76 and his three associates."

Mr. Evert, can we please go back to the chat, please.

April 9, 2013 from Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "I was finally able to connect but it seems you are offline. I will have them go take care of that thing asap. I will update you as soon as I hear more."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to Redandwhite: "Glad to hear you could connect. I am connected quite a bit so keep trying and I'm sure we'll cross paths."

April 11, 2013 from Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "Hey there. Still haven't been able to catch you on pidgin. I added you as a buddy but you don't show up in my buddies list. When adding a buddy, I leave everything blank and just put the use name as dread, correct? Our hitters have been watching their house and we have a one week window to do it but I wanted to ask you a couple questions before giving them the green light.

"The price of bitcoin's trading at 61USD right now. How is this going to work, because you mentioned that you would take care of the price fluctuations. We haven't withdrawn any of the bitcoins.

"Can you also give me some insight on this price business? I have been rallying our people to get involved will selling on here, and they seem very interested but they are saying we would lose money because of the price going up and down so much and not being able to withdrawal fast enough to not lose money."

April 12, 2013 from Dread Pirate Roberts to Redandwhite: "Check out this link."

And there's a dot-onion address provided ending in "Seller'S Guide."

"Pay special attention to the Part about escrow hedging. I don't think this place would be possible without it, at least not in the form it's in now.

"Regarding the 3k coins I sent, get the best price you can for them and let me know if you are short and I will send more to cover it.

"Regarding Chat I made a mistake, you should add me as dread@pi5mmjtronhutyxv.onion. I'm going to connect us manually so that may not be necessary."

April 15, 2013 from Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "The problem was dealt with. I'll try to catch you online to give you details. Just wanted to let you know right away so you have one less thing to worry about."

From Dread Pirate Roberts to Redandwhite: "Thanks, See you on chat."

From redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "3:30 PST tried to catch you online but no luck. Want to link up at the same time tomorrow."

And Then Dread Pirate Roberts Responds: "Sure, I'll make sure I am online at 3:30 p.m. PST."

April 18, 2013 from Dread Pirate Roberts to redandwhite: "It's nearly 4:00 P.M. PST. I need to run some errands. I will probably be back on later though."

April 21, 2013 from Redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts: "Sorry I wasn't able to make it on. I've had some problems I've been dealing with, I came online today to see if I could catch you but no luck. I will wait online until 6:00 p.m. PST. I've give you a brief rundown here just to let you know what happened. My crew did their job. As far as money/product/bitcoins/seller accounts. Money: They had $15,000 Canadian dollars on site. Product: They had a quarter kilo of cocaine and two ounces of heroin. Bitcoins: They have been giving a third party bitcoins who cashes out for them. The guy has roughly 350 bitcoins of theirs currently owing to them. The exchange guy is not in on the scam and is just some exchanger who sends them funds via Western Union and they have been using him from the start apparently. I don't know what to do about that. Seller accounts: They were in the process of setting up another account to sell heroin and cocaine. They said a few of their friends know about this, so be on the lookout if anyone from Canada starts to sell heroin and cocaine. "I also took a big loss. After you sent me the extra coins to cover the price going down when it was at 90, it started to crash again. It was at 65 and people were talking about how it's going to go down even more, so I made a deal with an exchanger to take them all at 50 and sell them for me in case it went down even lower. Of course, after I made that deal it has now started to rebound again but I'm out 250k. I'm not telling you this because I think you should cover it. In fact I don't want you to cover it. You already did more than you needed to do when you covered the price crashing the first time. I am just letting you know because this will cause a delay in us starting here because I was planning on covering the mens wages of 1,000 a day of street money to start selling on here until it gets busy enough for them to be paid via a percentage of what they sell here. It was my mistake for not arranging someone to take the entire bitcoin amount as soon as I had received it, instead of letting it sit and have the price crash.

"Hope to catch you online soon, as I have started on that reading material and I love what I am reading so far.

"Talk soon."

Dread Pirate Roberts Responds: "Okay. I'll look for you as well, but probably won't be online for the whole day again until Tuesday."

June 1, 2013 from redandwhite to Dread Pirate Roberts titled update: "I have some news regarding our organization selling on here. A bunch of chapter leaders flew into town for a meeting and the main topic of discussion was actually silk road. Would you be able to meet on pidgin at 3:00 p.m. PST on Sunday to discuss? There was quite a bit of stuff covered on the topic."

Mr. Evert, can you please publish 227D as a dog, it's a chat log that we have not yet read in. This is from page 332 to 333 of a 337 page chat log.

April 3, 2013: "myself: I get blackmailed by a guy saying he's in deep shit with hell's angels

Myself: he says he was fronted $700k in LSD from them

Myself: he gave it to lucydrop to sell on sr

Myself: he said lucy took off with the product

Myself: i said, have the hells angels contact me so i can work something out

Cimon: ha!

Myself: very foolishly he did

Myself: they said they caught up with lucy, got the product back and killed him

Myself: I didn't hear from the blackmailer agian so i thought the case was closed

Cimon: wait-- I'm missing something here

Myself: go ahead

Cimon: how was he blackmailing?

Myself: oh yea

Myself: he had thousands of addresses from customers and vendors

Myself: he said he installed a keylogger on lucys comp

Myself: he was threatening to release all of the user addresses

Myself: make sense

Myself: ?

Cimon: yeppers.

Cimon: now it does

Myself: ok, so this last friday he says I have 72 hours to send him half a mil or he's releasing the info

Myself: by this time I've sold the hell's angels on becoming vendors themselves

Myself: so I ask them if they are still after the guy

Myself: they say no, debt was paid when they caught up to lucydrop, so I pay them to hunt down the blackmailer.

Myself: he's gone on the run by this time fyi

Myself: they catch up to him within a day and he sings

Cimon: well, I bet ya he won't use the HA as a reference again any time soon

Myself: says he was in cahoots with lucy all along and ripping the angels off and black mailing me was part of the plan

Myself: he also said a 3rd party, our man tony76 orchestrated the whole thing

Myself: gave up his id

Cimon: ahhh, and that's how you got tony, fucking excellent

Myself: he's a brit

Cimon: how very convenient, where's he located

Cimon: more or less, of course

Myself: lemme look it up. I have the town

Myself: gotta look up the message on SR

Myself: helluva story eh?

Cimon: Man, I still can't believe tony fell into yer lap. Wonder if DA is hanging around the edge of that mix.

Myself: somehow I doubt it

Myself: have you tried connecting on pidgin?

Cimon: So how does tony 'train' other folks to rip you off?

Cimon: installing it on my other laptop

Myself: not sure, prolly just shows them how to use SR in general, how to get good feedback, and then how to maximize the rip off at the end

Myself: the guy is from Surrey apparently

Cimon: I thoujght he was cali-based, or am I completely confused

Myself: why did you think that?

Cimon: I thought that was the conclusion when he did the rip off

Myself: I don't remember that

Cimon: yeah, I must be mis-remembering that Myself: nipplesuckcanuck sounds canada based

Myself: vancouver

Cimon: How old is the info on tony, and does he know or suspect you have his info?

Myself: it is less than 2 days old, and the only thing he should know is that his two guys aren't getting back to him

Cimon: ok, installed pidgin here, adding the xmpp server account...

Cimon: Gotta mess about here with proxy tor will likely drop off for a few minutes while I configure it

Myself: ok."

MR. HOWARD: It Is hereby stipulated and agreed by and between the United States of America by Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Serrin Turner and Timothy Howard, Assistant United States Attorneys of counsel and Ross Ulbricht, by and through his counsel Joshua Dratel, Esq. as follows:

(1) Canadian Law Enforcement Authorities have no record of any Canadian residents named Blake Krokoff or Andrew Lawsry or any name associated with "FriendlyChemist."

(2) Canadian Law Enforcement Authorities do not have any record of any homicide occurring in the area of white rock, British Columbia on or about March 31, 2013 or any record of any homicides occurring in the area of Surrey, British Columbia on or about April 15, 2013 or any other evidence that anyone was physically harmed as a result of the plans discussed by "Dread Pirate Roberts" and "redandwhite."

We further stipulate and agree that the above-referenced exhibits and this stipulation, Government Exhibit 805, are admissible as Government exhibits at trial, except that the Defendant reserves the right to object to these exhibits under Federal Rules of Evidence.

MR. HOWARD: Mr. Evert, would you please publish Government Exhibit 226A, which is a chat log recovered from the defendant's computer that we have not yet read in.

This is from pages 41 to 42 of a 1,096 page chat log.

December 7, 2011: "Vj: OK - can't go without asking - whats the weekly gross sales

Vj: save me scraping all the feedback pages and doin the math

Myself: wanna take a guess?

Vj: nope - but 450 trans a day...

Vj: average say $55?

Vj: comes to 25 grand a week, and seems low to me

Vj: but that's the current guesses on the board

Myself: yea, 450 a day is high because saturday is like 350 and sunday is like 250

Myself: but the avg is more like $75

Vj: Don't forget that xmas - end of jan is gonna slow down, but growth might keep it from slowing too bad

Vj: but lots of folks are gonna be broke come xmas morning

Myself: I track the monthly sales volume and it's around $500k right now

Myself: so, $125k/wk or so

Vj: not bad for a guy that started selling shrooms, eh

Myself: haha

Myself: yep, pretty happy

Vj: so, why'd you stop vending, ha

Myself: too risky. I figured I'd be a target

Myself: and it was really time consuming. I grew my own."

Pages 522 to 523 of the 1,096 page chat log, March 11, 2012: "Vj: [. . .] Sometime, we have to have a discussion about what to do in the event of arrest or incarceration, thought about that a fair bit during the last two weeks.

Vj: For instance, if you were arrested

Vj: a decision would have to be made at what point in time do I come get you out

Vj: and I would come and get you out

Vj: Myself, that time would be a lot longer - scary, but jail doesn't scare me a whit anymore. I treat it like being in a 3rd world country with poor communications infrastructure

Myself: I've been thinking a bit about that as well. like I could put instructions for transferring control in an encrypted file and give it to a family member. then I can give them the password if I get put in jail.

Vj: and remember that one day when your in the exercise yard, I'll be the dude in the helicopter coming in low and fast, I promise.

Myself: ok

Vj: seriously, with the amount of $ we're generating, I could hire a small country to come get you."

On page 549 of the 1,096 page chat log March 14, 2012: "Vj: One of the things i'd like us to look at investing in is a helicopter tour company.

Vj: Cause you never know when one of us is gonna need a helicopter!

Vj: Be pretty handy to have it leased already.

Myself: I made a declaration about 8 years ago that I'd be a billionaire by my birthday in 2014. If you cound the discounted future revenues of the enterprise, it could happen.

Vj: When yer keeping your eye on the ball, that's the big one.

Myself: yep, all that money won't be worth much if we're behind bars."

March 22, 2012: "Vj: how much was the total for the last sale.

Vj: ?

Myself: $321,802.06 from 4197 orders

Vj: how many vendors do we have now?

Vj: and what are weekly sales?

Vj: hould do well over double weekly sales for the sale, I'd think, quite easily moe.

Myself: weekly peaked out at ner $600k, but have fallen this past week to $475k or so

Vj: So we'll easily break a mil for the sale - not bad for a bit over a year old, eh.

Myself: # vendors is about 200 decent sized and active vendors, and about 150 more small or new ones."

Mr. Evert, can you please publish 227C, another chat log that was recovered from the defendant's computer that has not yet been read.

From pages 44 to 47 of a 337-page chat log: "Myself: The site is still growing on its own. Not quite exponential, but more than linear.

Cimon: What are weekly's now?

Myself: Up to 1.3M.

Myself: Try handling the entire escrow and account balances of Silk Road sometime." Emoticon.

Page 73, October 8, 2012: "Myself: We have over 700 unique sellers each week. It's getting competitive on the supply side.

Myself: Volume go up to 1.4M about a week ago.

Cimon: Mebbe it's time for sale, no trips this time, eh"

January 29, 2013, "myself: We crossed a cool milestone today.

Cimon: <pants>

Cimon. What what what.

Myself: 10k unique customers in the last week."

MR. HOWARD: Thank you, your Honor.

Mr. Evert, can we publish Government Exhibit 940 and go to page seven, please. Zoom in on the bottom again.