5.Jared Der-Yeghiayan — Cross (Part 7)
53 linesMR. DRATEL: Special Agent Der-Yeghiayan, where we left off, after -- as part of your investigation and in the course of your investigation, you communicated to Baltimore in July of 2013 that you did not want Baltimore to pursue Mr. Karpeles or to meet with him, correct?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That's correct.
MR. DRATEL: And you said that it would -- that you believed it would damage HSI Chicago's investigation?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: Now, in August, August 15 of 2013, you are operating as cirrus on Silk Road, right?
MR. DRATEL: You're operating a number of other buyer accounts, right?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: I had many available to me, yeah.
MR. DRATEL: And you also had some seller accounts, as well?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: I did.
MR. DRATEL: And you, at that point, drafted another search warrant for emails for Mr. Karpeles, correct?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: And so one -- this is August 15, 2013, one was for the Northern District of California, correct?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: And one was for the Southern District of New York?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: And they were for email accounts, Google email accounts?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: It was yeah, gmail.
MR. DRATEL: Gmail accounts.
And this is, again, three months after the seizure of Mr. Karpeles' money by HSI Baltimore that essentially put him on notice of the government investigation?
MR. DRATEL: And in your affidavit, which you were prepared to sign that day and swear, right, August 15, 2013?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: I believe the date sounds right, yes.
MR. DRATEL: If you need help, I'll be happy to --
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That sounds correct.
MR. DRATEL: You were ready to swear that there was probable cause to believe that those gmail accounts contained evidence of instrumentalities of narcotics trafficking and money laundering, right?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: And that was based upon your personal knowledge, your review of documents and other evidence and your conversations with other law enforcement officers and civilian witnesses?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Correct.
MR. DRATEL: And you went through a lot of the details that we discussed before about Mr. Karpeles, Silk Road market website, Mt.Gox, all of that, right?
MR. DRATEL: And you wrote -- ready to swear that -- and did you ever swear to that evidence?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: Yes, I did.
MR. DRATEL: So, you wrote I believe this evidence shows that Karpeles controlled the silkroadmarket.org website along with the tuxtele.com website and that he hosted them both at IP addresses he controlled?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That's correct.
MR. DRATEL: And you also cited his LinkedIn entry, right?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: I believe so, yes.
MR. DRATEL: Where he described himself as an experienced computer programmer who, from 2003 to 2010, worked as a software developer at various companies specializing in developing ecommerce websites?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That's correct.
MR. DRATEL: And you wrote that based on my training and experience, I know that that type of background would make Karpeles well suited to operating an ecommerce site such as the Silk Road underground website?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That's correct.
MR. DRATEL: Now, you also had a confidential informant that you cited in that affidavit, correct?
MR. DRATEL: Who had worked with Karpeles for the past two years at that time -- this is 2013 -- that had worked for him two years previous to that, right?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: That's correct.
MR. DRATEL: And that reported to -- that Karpeles operated something called bitcointalk.org?
MR. TURNER: Objection, your Honor. 803.
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. DRATEL: Did you swear to this in an affidavit?
JARED DER-YEGHIAYAN: I swore to it, yes.
THE COURT: Do you want a side bar about this? I don't want to have the colloquy in front of the jury.
MR. DRATEL: A short side bar.
THE COURT: Come on up.
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